[Freepats] Re: New Hydrogen Drumkit and free sound samples

[Marcos Guglielmetti Gmail]

El Mié 12 Abr 2006 15:52, Mark Constable escribió:
> On Sunday 09 April 2006 20:17, Roberto Gordo Saez wrote:
> > On 4/8/06, Marcos Guglielmetti Gmail <marcospcmusica at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > > Download from:
> > > ftp://ftp.musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/sound-samples/Colombo-Ac
> > >ustic-Drumkit/
>
> Now mirrored here...
>
>  http://freepats.opensrc.org/musix/samples/drums/

Great

> BTW Colombo-Acustic-Drumkit should probably be
> Colombo-Acoustic-Drumkit

Yes, could you change it?

> > > Last time notes: this multilayered Hydrogen's Drumkit only uses
> > > some of these .flac samples, I will move the unused samples to
> > > another path later...
> >
> > Great work Marcos. Thank you!
>
> Yes, it's the best sounding Hydrogen drumkit I've heard.

Well, i am glad

> > Although free software is now used in many different areas,
> > sound/music production is one of this areas that is getting less
> > attention. It is rare to find people using free software in a
> > professional way for this tasks, and the lack of quality samples is
> > the most prominent cause.
>
> Also, when it comes time to redistribute an entire project,
> which is an unique potential in the FLOSS world, we simply
> can't because an important part of an entire  project is
> going to be, most likely, "stolen" sounds from somewhere.
>
> The main reason that I am personally interested in this issue
> of a decent soundfont is because when and if I ever write and
> produce any music I would like to do so under a full GPL license,
> but that really demands that I provide the source of my project
> which I am happy to do... everything, including the MIDI tracks,
> wav solo parts, sequencer and ardour parts...

So, GPL Musix would requiere to give the "source" code so anyone could 
remake it?

> everything, BUT 
> at this point in time I would not be able to provide any MIDI
> instruments (most likely in sf2 format) because I would have
> to resort to proprietary samples to get decent sounding
> instruments (mainly bass and drumkit... and then mainly the
> kick drum).

We could make better kick drums and bass sounds, I have bass sound 
recorded by me, and they could sound professional. Also, if you sample 
an Zynaddsubfx bass it could sound very realistic: i did it.

> > Many samples are still missing from freepats and many others need
> > to be improved.
>
> I'd say it's more a matter of aiming for a complete new set
> of instrument samples and only use the current freepats
> temporarily to make up any missing or hard to get sounds
> until new samples can be found.

Complete new set: so, as instance, the 128 GM melodic instruments?

> Maybe I am dreaming but I would like to think it should be
> looked at from this point of view.

Yes, it should be like this

> > Mark, since you have a better knowledge on what is
> > missing to produce a minimal (but usable) set of high quality
> > instrument samples, can you please make a list of priority samples
> > that are needed?
>
> There is a fairly complete list of missing instruments here...
>
>  http://freepats.opensrc.org/freepats/README

Ok

> > Also, a list of samples already included in freepats
> > that you think can be reused and are acceptable quality would be a
> > good idea. This way, focus can be given on most needed ones, in
> > orther to have something usable as soon as possible.
>
> Quite a few years ago I started pulling out the raw samples
> from the guspats and was horrified to find some were 32khtz
> and I think even 22.5khtz... and often quite noisy when
> listened to in a loop. It was a lot of effort and I can't
> even find the utility I used to break out the wav components
> of the guspats. If they were converted to a sf2 soundfont then
> perhaps Smurf or Swami could be used to review all the samples.

Yes, swami could be used to remake the samples

> Sorry, I can't comment on which ones are best to reuse other
> than to say "only temporarily until better samples are available"
> for any or all of them.

Ok

> --markc
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